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blast off on another episode of hero

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paranormal that's right i'm ryan the

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original outlaw of the

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airwaves bringing you a vip edition

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of the hero podcast we are broadcasting

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live from the base at la madre mountain

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that's right just south of area 51 and

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today i couldn't be more stoked

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about our guest ryan gable he is a

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very very well-known veteran radio

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personality and producer for his show

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the secret teachings

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his broadcast focuses on the

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synchronicity

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and objective analysis of alternative

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news

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health history the paranormal symbolism

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the occult esoteric alchemy magic

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philosophy and more in the most distinct

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ways by finding

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parallels and patterns often overlooked

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it's right up my alley spending much of

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his life

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on air and having written several books

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ryan has also been a guest on dozens

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of other radio shows and has had his

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broadcast aired well on a variety of

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networks from mprk

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the fringe fm he is a frequent guest on

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ground zero with clyde lewis

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and the kev baker show despite this

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success

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all achieved with well zero capital his

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broadcast has also been removed from

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various networks over the years

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he refuses to censor his content he has

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also banned from attending some

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conferences for speaking on subjects

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controversial i guess or exposing con

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ryan and the secret teachings are not

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aligned with any specific ideology so

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well you must stay fluid with

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information as it is unveiled

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he holds himself to the same standards

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and recommendations suggested on air and

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his writings

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relative to food or study he focuses on

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critical thinking

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objectivity and keys to understanding he

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believes these are all

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well utilizing and appreciating the

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secret teachings

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of all ages his other books are occult

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arcana and food philosophy and the one

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that i just got done with

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is the technological elixir we will

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discuss all of his books probably the

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food philosophy won the least because

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the other ones are just so

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juicy pun intended it's like really

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really good stuff

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if you haven't been over to the secret

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teachings dot info please go over there

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you can also get a hold of him at

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rdgable

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yahoo.com he is well

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the man and if you're gonna buy his

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books definitely buy them direct

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because i know that that helps us

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independent authors

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a lot more than just buying them on

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amazon you would think we get a portion

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we really don't so without further ado

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i'm gonna just uh say my little spiel go

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to heroparanormal.com

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drop a couple bucks and next thing you

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you will get more content and you'll be

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and uh that's that ryan my man welcome

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to the hero paranormal podcast

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hey thank you for having me you know um

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it is so exciting to talk to you again

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we are kind of into the same things and

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i think that this book

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of yours actually all three books are

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just kind of like magnum opuses all of

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them are just amazing it's hard to pick

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well that's very kind of you to say that

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i appreciate it i assume that you've

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read all three then and um it's probably

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you longer to read them than it took me

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to write them i just kind of compiled

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all this information on these various

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subjects over the years through radio

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and i feel like when people read the

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they probably know more about them than

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i do because i don't remember a lot of

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what i wrote in them

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there's so much content i don't know

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exactly where you want to start

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but i think it gives us a smorgasbord a

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giant buffet of

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topics from health to the occult and

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i i think exactly as you said there's so

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and how it relates to uh

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much of the media the media is mentioned

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in the books and how people just

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willingly throw themselves into this

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media absorption mode

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other authors who write quite a bit

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about that type of thing

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when you have something like a symbol or

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perception and where you focus your

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that you can manifest

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certain components of that thing that

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a lot of what we see through media a lot

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of what we see through entertainment

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are sigils and symbols and ideas and

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concepts that we're not trying to will

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but others are trying to utilize our

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topical subject itself

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in the books but the death of george

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floyd for example

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doesn't matter what you think of the

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death of george floyd doesn't matter if

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judge without any due process of law or

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criminal background and who had

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official medical report in the corner

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cultural and a global god and being a

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black man he was turned into what we

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was a green god of agriculture

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because he was the god of soil

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in a a deceptive trick in the mythology

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coffin and the whole point in the

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set this dark evil force like the sun

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those symbols and you apply them to the

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matrix if you will you can kind of see

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the underlying current and the fabric of

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reality and the people that can see

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those things they might understand

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the world in a little bit of a different

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way they might use that to their

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in order to control the minds of other

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george floyd or any other topical

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and allows us to i think in my view

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progress forward as an individual

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it allows us to i think become far more

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because we start to learn this other

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language and we start to communicate in

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with people from you know i i in radio i

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communicate with people from all over

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the world who have different views and

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but we can all agree on this one

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thing that allows us to grow as

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and so back to what you said about the

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media the media uses those

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symbols and those sigils to control the

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minds of people

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like your listeners use those types of

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symbols and meditation or whatever it

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talk about in my books and the types of

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i just want to give people the

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realization if they haven't had it

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that freedom of thought is perhaps the

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most critical and important thing to

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variety of subjects

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to encourage people to think for

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themselves about pretty much anything

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and everything they come into contact

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with

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i i can't agree more and you know

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the coolest thing about your book is

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and books for that matter is how

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they relate to our current times and

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past times

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a lot of past history is recurring as

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as we're noting and that your example of

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the golden coffin

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symbolism goes a lot farther than people

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think and

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and we miss this a lot with a with a

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grain of salt you know the bread and

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circuses

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are are still alive and active and many

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people are not aware of it

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no that's right and i think that you can

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look at the fact that

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the way that we watch you know

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entertainment we watch

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media everything is focused on

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a buzzword or it's focused again on a

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sigil or a symbol

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which is an idea it's focused on

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rhetoric

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it's focused on this very narrow

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arbitrary way of thinking

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and that goes for all political thought

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any kind of institutional thought

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and free thought overall it's just kind

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of i don't know if you notice this in

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general but free thought is kind of

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stamped out

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stomped out even in you know paranormal

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radio

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and i guess you could call what i do

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kind of in the realm of the paranormal

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there isn't even a lot of free thought

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in those realms people are

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just as willing to remove facts from a

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story

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so that it fits to their narrative and i

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think that that's part of you know human

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nature

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exploited by psychologists and others

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in order to control human beings and i

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think that's a generalized statement

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but i think we can look at you know

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applied case studies like

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the tavistock institute or big

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foundations and

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think tanks and groups that write papers

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on how

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to control people's minds and again i

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mean that quite literally i'll give you

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one example

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uh that yale university published a

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report

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back in 2020 and it wasn't based on any

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science

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it wasn't based on anything except we

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know here at yellow university

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that some people will not take a covet

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19 vaccine and it doesn't matter what

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you think about covet 19 vaccines or

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anything like that it's the principle of

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the matter

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so they said rather than having any kind

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of like scientific evidence

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for or against a vaccine we are going to

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propose a list of ways in which we can

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manipulate people into taking the

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vaccine

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and so then i don't know if you saw this

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but they give a list of ways in which to

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convince people to do something

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against their will regardless of any

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evidence or facts

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for or against it and that's just kind

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of the way that everything in media

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everything in popular culture everything

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entertainment works

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it's an oversaturation in this form of

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manipulation

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as an oversaturation in this form of

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what becomes identity politics or

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identity science

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so that we look somewhere else to

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achieve an identity and a purpose

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and we don't look within ourselves to

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feel empowered or we don't look within

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ourselves to have that

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so we look to other people and i'm not

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trying to be that person

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i just want to provide people with a

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platform

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and with information so that they can

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make those decisions for themselves

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and i feel i don't know about you

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but i feel that i don't really think

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things are so dark or so light i think

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things are very balanced and neutral

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i think it really depends on where you

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put your attention and focus that

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matters more than anything

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yeah i really do think things are what

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you make it and it sounds so

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cheesy you know it reminds me of like

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adam sandler

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in the water boy but things are what you

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make them

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and you know relating to humans and

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subplanes of consciousness

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so many so many humans are willing to

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just hand over the reigns

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kind of what we are discussing and your

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book goes into this realization of self

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and being able to

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you know which which is not uh not a

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small feat by the way

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and i wanted to read just a small part

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that it's just under the kabbalistic

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tetragram these

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this is the light reading that isn't

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these this these books are amazing this

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book series

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but many interpret the four horses or

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the four horsemen

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and the seven spheres of angels as

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demons or elements to be associated with

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evil but until we recognize these devil

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these

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devils are really angels setting your

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spirit free it is impossible to

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achieve elevation of the lower self now

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a lot of this

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is uh you know that this is this is from

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the secret teachings of all

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ages much of what manly hall has

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explained in

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a long time now could you tell us a

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little bit about manly hall in case any

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of our listeners

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haven't heard about him yeah of course

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it's funny you actually mentioned that

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quotation because i was

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preparing a radio show for this week on

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the four horses

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and on various biblical stories whether

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it was the garden of eden and the

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fruit on the tree of life or tree of

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knowledge and then i also was going to

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talk about

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revelation a little bit so that's kind

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of synchronistic that you bring that up

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cool yeah manly hall was uh i guess

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you'd call him a teacher a mystique a

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philosopher

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a number of other things he was a

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canadian

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who as far as i understand i knew some

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people i know some people who knew him

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and uh they said that he was he was

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orphaned at a young age i don't know

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much of his backstory to be honest with

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you i just know what he did later in

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life

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and at 24 years old as he began to

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accumulate information as he as he got

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older and he read and

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traveled he published that book the

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secret teachings of all ages

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which is probably one of the most

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extensive

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and i i would say the most detailed

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books on mythology and magic and the

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cultism and history that i've

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personally ever read i assume you feel

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probably quite similar

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and manly hall wrote

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so many books that each one of those

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books that you read that he wrote

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is so incredibly advanced in terms of

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understanding

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you find it very hard you're hard

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pressed to find any other author

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or very few who can write in the elegant

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way that manly hall

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wrote and so those are the things that

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really inspired me

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manly hall in particular to uh

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to use that that mindset i guess you

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could say is what i would call it

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but that mindset and that um identity of

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the self and the elevation of the self

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uh in all the things that i did in terms

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of my research for each radio show

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i never wanted to prove anything but as

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i read you know some of manly hall's

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work and other books on whether i mean

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it could have been atlantis i read about

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when i was younger

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or it could have been something on

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history i read a lot of jim mars as well

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i started to prepare radio shows and i

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didn't know what to talk about so as i

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read these books and i learned these

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things

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i found great inspiration in what manly

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hall had written

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and so i i named my show after his book

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and people like manly hall people like

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elifos levi

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people like cornelius agrippa uh israel

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regarding

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and a handful of others are just

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individual voices

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that despite the fact that they're

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individual they don't necessarily have

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big institutions promoting them

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today their voices for those who choose

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to read and to look into those

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things that they write about are the

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most prominent and well preserved

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voices on the subject of occultism and

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magic and

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you find that within the writings of

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some of these people when you

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break down and you read in between the

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lines

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you find that there's almost like a coat

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in the writing of people like manly hull

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where on the surface it looks like

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something that's literal a literal

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interpretation but the more you learn

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about it

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the more your mind and your brain kind

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of open and flower and blossom

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and you realize that that wasn't

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necessarily a literal thing

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it was metaphoric and then when you

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understand the metaphor you start to

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realize oh but there were literal

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components to that

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and and what i mean by that is that

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there are certain symbols that on the

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surface

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they might be good or bad and you

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realize that that symbol

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is representative of some metaphor some

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myth and then when you study the

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metaphor the myth you realize oh but

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that symbol is also something literal

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it literally means life or it literally

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means death

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but life and death in a way that we

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don't necessarily think about it's not

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death necessarily

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of the body it might be death of an idea

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death of a state of mind and these are

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the beautiful things about what hall

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wrote about or what other

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people like hall wrote about and what i

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try to do is to show people that there

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are

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perceptions of the world

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and of individual symbols and ideas and

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it's the intention behind those who

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wield those

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determine

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along with their associated um

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i guess you could call them energies

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whether you you're using them for the

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benefit of self or

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uh for the advancement of an idea within

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a group

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but there are certain things that

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although they have lots of different

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meanings

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they also have a singular meaning going

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back to

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you know their origin and that meaning

572
00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:36,000
is also always underlying

573
00:19:40,549 --> 00:19:38,480
and so if you take a symbol something

574
00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:40,559
like a pentagram which is very prominent

575
00:19:43,590 --> 00:19:42,000
in manly hull's book the secret

576
00:19:45,830 --> 00:19:43,600
teachings of all ages

577
00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:45,840
the pentagram to a lot of christians is

578
00:19:49,990 --> 00:19:47,200
a symbol of

579
00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:50,000
demonism or diabolism or some type of

580
00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:52,240
you know demonic evil symbol

581
00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:54,720
to a lot of wiccans it's a pure symbol

582
00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:56,320
and to a lot of christians and wiccans

583
00:20:00,789 --> 00:19:59,280
it's a purely negative or a purely

584
00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:00,799
positive symbol

585
00:20:05,510 --> 00:20:03,840
and so they don't necessarily um assume

586
00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:05,520
responsibility for the fact that that

587
00:20:08,230 --> 00:20:06,000
symbol

588
00:20:10,630 --> 00:20:08,240
is both positive and negative but it's

589
00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:10,640
also the intention behind the user

590
00:20:14,149 --> 00:20:12,799
so if a christian for example and i'm

591
00:20:15,750 --> 00:20:14,159
not attacking a christian

592
00:20:18,149 --> 00:20:15,760
i'm simply saying if a christian for

593
00:20:19,990 --> 00:20:18,159
example looks at a pentagram and assumes

594
00:20:21,830 --> 00:20:20,000
it's totally evil

595
00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:21,840
well then they are avoiding all the good

596
00:20:26,710 --> 00:20:24,000
of that symbol and they are manifesting

597
00:20:28,230 --> 00:20:26,720
the evil in that symbol and likewise i

598
00:20:29,669 --> 00:20:28,240
you know have known wiccans who will

599
00:20:32,789 --> 00:20:29,679
look at it as purely

600
00:20:34,710 --> 00:20:32,799
positive and it might be a good thing

601
00:20:36,710 --> 00:20:34,720
you could think to avoid all the

602
00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:36,720
negative of that symbol

603
00:20:40,310 --> 00:20:38,480
but i think it's necessary to see the

604
00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:40,320
positive and the negative

605
00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:41,840
which will allow us to notice that there

606
00:20:45,270 --> 00:20:43,840
are necessary evils in the world

607
00:20:47,510 --> 00:20:45,280
and it's only by conquering those

608
00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:47,520
necessary evils and subduing them

609
00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:50,080
like the magicians and the grim wars and

610
00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:52,799
the the alchemists they subdue the beast

611
00:20:56,230 --> 00:20:54,720
they slay the monster which is the the

612
00:20:58,549 --> 00:20:56,240
beast tile self

613
00:20:59,909 --> 00:20:58,559
and they allow those those demons that

614
00:21:02,710 --> 00:20:59,919
you mentioned that that i had written

615
00:21:05,590 --> 00:21:02,720
about in a cult arcane of those demons

616
00:21:07,270 --> 00:21:05,600
to not tear up tear them apart for the

617
00:21:09,270 --> 00:21:07,280
benefit of growth

618
00:21:10,950 --> 00:21:09,280
and allow themselves to be consumed but

619
00:21:11,990 --> 00:21:10,960
they conquer those demons and allow

620
00:21:15,430 --> 00:21:12,000
those demons

621
00:21:17,029 --> 00:21:15,440
to do their job to help you to advance

622
00:21:19,110 --> 00:21:17,039
your understanding

623
00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:19,120
and so that's i think is the necessary

624
00:21:23,669 --> 00:21:21,360
component in understanding symbols

625
00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:23,679
and understanding myth and understanding

626
00:21:26,710 --> 00:21:25,200
you know the concepts of angels and

627
00:21:28,470 --> 00:21:26,720
demons and spirits

628
00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:28,480
is that they are so many different

629
00:21:31,430 --> 00:21:30,960
things but they are also one singular

630
00:21:36,870 --> 00:21:31,440
thing

631
00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:36,880
there's not really a solid place to

632
00:21:39,990 --> 00:21:37,679
stand

633
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:40,000
when it comes to things like occultism

634
00:21:43,029 --> 00:21:41,600
and esotericism

635
00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:43,039
and that's why it's more of a spiritual

636
00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:44,880
practice and a spiritual study

637
00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:46,240
and i know i kind of went beyond what

638
00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:48,000
you asked about me so awesome yeah

639
00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:49,440
that's one of the reasons that i've

640
00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:51,760
read and studied his work and why i kind

641
00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:53,039
of paid homage to it

642
00:21:57,990 --> 00:21:55,840
with the name of my radio show and why

643
00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:58,000
i've quoted hall a lot in my books like

644
00:22:01,190 --> 00:21:59,520
a cult arcana

645
00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:01,200
that's just my interpretation that's how

646
00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:02,880
i see things

647
00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:05,600
yeah and it's it's for all of those the

648
00:22:11,990 --> 00:22:08,080
radio show is the secret teachings

649
00:22:13,510 --> 00:22:12,000
and dot info it's on the fringe fm and

650
00:22:15,830 --> 00:22:13,520
really quickly to get into

651
00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:15,840
i'm glad you mentioned that because you

652
00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:17,600
know a lot of times people

653
00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:20,400
talk about their demons and you often

654
00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:22,320
hear people say oh that guy's a machine

655
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:23,200
when it comes to

656
00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:25,520
one thing or another and it could be

657
00:22:28,549 --> 00:22:26,960
that some of these demons are driving

658
00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:28,559
him in a positive or negative way in

659
00:22:33,350 --> 00:22:30,640
that particular direction

660
00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:33,360
depending on how you view this whole

661
00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:34,720
aspect but

662
00:22:38,789 --> 00:22:37,440
i wanted to get into just on the basis

663
00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:38,799
of time

664
00:22:42,870 --> 00:22:41,120
when you say that guy's a machine now

665
00:22:44,870 --> 00:22:42,880
it's it's starting to verge on

666
00:22:47,029 --> 00:22:44,880
transhumanism and i wanted to

667
00:22:48,070 --> 00:22:47,039
kind of verge into the technological

668
00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:48,080
elixir

669
00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:50,080
and some of the amazing things like you

670
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:51,600
you mentioned using these

671
00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:54,720
tools technology is one of these tools

672
00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:56,880
and it is a weapon that is used to

673
00:23:01,750 --> 00:22:59,200
destroy correct

674
00:23:03,830 --> 00:23:01,760
it's a weapon is used to destroy yes

675
00:23:05,669 --> 00:23:03,840
just as much as it is a tool that's used

676
00:23:08,149 --> 00:23:05,679
to build and construct

677
00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:08,159
and i think sometimes in fact i know

678
00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:09,600
that a lot of the time that

679
00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:11,600
the tools that we use to build can also

680
00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:13,440
be used to destroy

681
00:23:19,029 --> 00:23:15,360
and the tools we use to destroy can also

682
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:19,039
be used to build yes absolutely

683
00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:21,280
what's so cool about this book is it

684
00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:23,520
it's it's so awesome how it goes

685
00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:26,799
into well the disconnecting through on

686
00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:28,640
social media and

687
00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:30,400
i love that the some of the terms that

688
00:23:33,669 --> 00:23:32,080
are used how did you get up

689
00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:33,679
with some of these terms i love the

690
00:23:39,029 --> 00:23:36,000
unsocial media and how do you recommend

691
00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:39,039
people disconnect from the bad stuff

692
00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:41,600
well the terms are just i'm a naturally

693
00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:43,600
sarcastic person i think

694
00:23:47,909 --> 00:23:46,559
and um i've you know i've done radio for

695
00:23:49,750 --> 00:23:47,919
almost 11 years now

696
00:23:51,190 --> 00:23:49,760
five years professionally six years

697
00:23:53,909 --> 00:23:51,200
professionally

698
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:53,919
and you at some point when you go do

699
00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:54,480
your show

700
00:23:57,990 --> 00:23:55,760
five minutes a week monday through

701
00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:58,000
friday like i do uh

702
00:24:01,830 --> 00:24:00,000
you have to come up with a well i guess

703
00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:01,840
you don't have to but i i come up with a

704
00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:02,320
different

705
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:08,640
and i try to use a lot of word play and

706
00:24:12,710 --> 00:24:10,799
so i like to play on words and i like to

707
00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:12,720
kind of use word magic a little bit

708
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:14,960
and i like to be sarcastic and so that's

709
00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:16,480
where i come up with some of those terms

710
00:24:18,870 --> 00:24:16,880
or

711
00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:18,880
sometimes they're kind of already in the

712
00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:21,520
the popular lexicon

713
00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:24,880
the technological uh elixir

714
00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:27,200
uh as you said it explores a lot it

715
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:28,159
explores

716
00:24:32,230 --> 00:24:31,440
uh the philosophy of technology uh and

717
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:32,240
how

718
00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:35,440
in the modern day we have this idea

719
00:24:39,029 --> 00:24:37,600
from a from a techno perspective if you

720
00:24:41,909 --> 00:24:39,039
will that

721
00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:41,919
technology is the savior of mankind and

722
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:43,919
so technology is kind of being offered

723
00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:45,360
to mankind as

724
00:24:50,549 --> 00:24:48,240
what i call a techno apple it's uh this

725
00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:50,559
the poisoned apple of snow white

726
00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:53,600
we're being promised by technocrats and

727
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:54,000
by

728
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:56,000
major corporations and even you know

729
00:25:00,789 --> 00:24:57,760
startup technology companies

730
00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:00,799
that technology can save us save us from

731
00:25:04,149 --> 00:25:02,480
what they don't necessarily say maybe

732
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:04,159
save us from climate change or save us

733
00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:04,799
from

734
00:25:08,630 --> 00:25:06,880
death but they don't really define these

735
00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:08,640
things it's just kind of an implication

736
00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:10,400
it can just it can save us it can save

737
00:25:13,110 --> 00:25:11,600
mankind

738
00:25:14,870 --> 00:25:13,120
that's a general thing that we're

739
00:25:17,909 --> 00:25:14,880
promised and then we take a bite of that

740
00:25:20,710 --> 00:25:17,919
techno apple and we realize that

741
00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:20,720
we're naked we realize that we've been

742
00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:22,720
deceived we realized that

743
00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:25,120
we have now begun a slow and then a

744
00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:27,279
increasingly rapid slide

745
00:25:34,149 --> 00:25:32,000
into in the modern state a technocratic

746
00:25:35,110 --> 00:25:34,159
environment in which all things are

747
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:35,120
fused

748
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:38,080
to machines and technology into which to

749
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:39,200
the point which free

750
00:25:45,510 --> 00:25:43,200
thought and free uh congregation

751
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:45,520
is limited and controlled and where

752
00:25:49,269 --> 00:25:47,120
there will be no

753
00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:49,279
where in the world eventually to be able

754
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:50,240
to go and be

755
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:53,039
free of these types of technological

756
00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:54,240
intrusions

757
00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:56,320
and so the book starts out with that and

758
00:26:01,029 --> 00:25:58,159
i appreciate you asking me

759
00:26:02,470 --> 00:26:01,039
about the technology book as well as the

760
00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:02,480
book starts out with that

761
00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:04,640
i tried to go into showing how

762
00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:06,000
technology is a tool

763
00:26:11,510 --> 00:26:09,200
as you said and that there are positive

764
00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:11,520
and negative elements to technology like

765
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:13,840
there are two different symbols

766
00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:16,960
and although the book might hinge more

767
00:26:21,990 --> 00:26:18,960
so into the direction

768
00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:22,000
of the downsides of technology i try to

769
00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:23,760
incorporate throughout it like i do

770
00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:25,520
in my own life that even though there

771
00:26:29,909 --> 00:26:28,080
are downsides to certain technologies

772
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:29,919
there are benefits that we can still

773
00:26:34,390 --> 00:26:31,600
extract them in the course

774
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:34,400
and so the positive element is preserved

775
00:26:37,510 --> 00:26:36,320
in the negative and vice versa it's

776
00:26:39,990 --> 00:26:37,520
basically

777
00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:40,000
i guess you could say i i kind of think

778
00:26:42,149 --> 00:26:41,600
and this is the way that i do my radio

779
00:26:45,269 --> 00:26:42,159
show i

780
00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:45,279
i do it in a yin yang fashion where the

781
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:47,120
male is in the female the female was in

782
00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:47,760
the male

783
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:49,520
there's unity between the darkness and

784
00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:51,520
the light and so when people read

785
00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:52,799
something that i write like

786
00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:54,720
that book i'm glad that you really

787
00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:56,000
enjoyed it

788
00:26:59,350 --> 00:26:57,440
but they read it and they might think

789
00:27:02,149 --> 00:26:59,360
well this is very negative

790
00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:02,159
and sure it is negative but if you're a

791
00:27:05,350 --> 00:27:03,039
free thinking

792
00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:05,360
individual you can extract the positive

793
00:27:09,750 --> 00:27:06,880
elements from it at least that's

794
00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:09,760
what i hope people can do and so as i

795
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:11,200
continue to write the book i just

796
00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:12,720
started having these other ideas of

797
00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:14,000
where i could go with the

798
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:17,440
with the with the storyline and i had

799
00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:19,279
come up with the title of the book first

800
00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:21,039
the technological elixir now but that's

801
00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:22,320
a great book title i'm going to write a

802
00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:23,039
book

803
00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:24,720
and so i wrote when i wrote this thing

804
00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:26,799
and i started with the philosophy of

805
00:27:29,909 --> 00:27:28,399
technology

806
00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:29,919
the main point that i want to get at

807
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:32,159
here is that mankind

808
00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:35,440
has essentially replaced god with

809
00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:38,080
technology and the new priests rather

810
00:27:41,190 --> 00:27:39,840
than being priests or bishops of a

811
00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:41,200
church they're priests

812
00:27:47,029 --> 00:27:45,039
and bishops of a technocratic elite or

813
00:27:48,789 --> 00:27:47,039
they are doctors and scientists those

814
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:48,799
are the new high priests

815
00:27:52,149 --> 00:27:50,720
and it doesn't matter what other priests

816
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:52,159
say in

817
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:54,799
in the in this religion it matters what

818
00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:55,600
the priests

819
00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:58,159
of this religion say so there might be

820
00:28:01,590 --> 00:27:59,440
if you were to refer to

821
00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:01,600
christianity and catholicism you know

822
00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:03,120
there are muslims and christians that

823
00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:04,399
believe the same thing but a lot of

824
00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:05,200
muslims and

825
00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:06,799
you know muslim prophecies are different

826
00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:08,720
than christian prophecies and

827
00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:10,960
different than christian beliefs so in

828
00:28:15,029 --> 00:28:13,039
christianity the muslim view is wrong

829
00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:15,039
even though it's virtually identical

830
00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:16,399
and in the muslim view a lot of the

831
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:17,520
christian views are wrong even though

832
00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:19,039
it's virtually identical

833
00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:22,080
and so in this new technocratic i guess

834
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:24,159
you could call it a technocratic age

835
00:28:27,510 --> 00:28:25,760
where were promised the techno apple

836
00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:27,520
were promised that the elixir of life

837
00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:29,440
through technology

838
00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:31,760
it's done through the creation of this

839
00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:34,000
new techno religious state

840
00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:36,799
where the state is a technocracy and

841
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:37,200
where

842
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:39,520
you know forced medical things are done

843
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:41,120
to people we're seeing that this is

844
00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:42,240
going to become

845
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:44,960
part of everyday life and where

846
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:46,000
technology

847
00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:50,880
has replaced god

848
00:28:53,909 --> 00:28:52,320
and one of the things i talked about in

849
00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:53,919
the book and and i'd like to get your

850
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:55,600
opinion on this too it's a thought i've

851
00:28:59,909 --> 00:28:57,120
been mulling over

852
00:29:02,310 --> 00:28:59,919
it's like people that are scientists and

853
00:29:04,149 --> 00:29:02,320
doctors that have this technocratic view

854
00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:04,159
that that true evolution is really

855
00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:05,760
merging with machines

856
00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:08,960
they suggest that mankind is

857
00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:12,240
is kind of like flawed and they suggest

858
00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:14,080
mankind is flawed because god

859
00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:17,360
created a flawed being so my question

860
00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:21,600
has always been how could a perfect god

861
00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:24,399
create an imperfect being and if that

862
00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:26,000
were the case then how could this

863
00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:30,399
imperfect being remove the perfect god

864
00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:32,880
and then replace the perfect god with

865
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:34,880
the developments of

866
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:37,360
the imperfect being which they believe

867
00:29:42,149 --> 00:29:40,320
are superior to the perfection of god

868
00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:42,159
it kind of like rattles the mind i don't

869
00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:43,440
know if that makes sense but that's

870
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:44,880
something i thought about and that's

871
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:45,600
something that

872
00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:48,720
really drove me to write that book kind

873
00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:50,399
of as a response to

874
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:52,559
the the view that technocracy is the

875
00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:54,000
answer to human evolution

876
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:56,640
when i really think technocracy and the

877
00:30:00,789 --> 00:29:58,559
merging with machines and the connection

878
00:30:01,990 --> 00:30:00,799
to all these devices uh literally or

879
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:02,000
figuratively

880
00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:03,919
is really the the de-evolution of

881
00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:05,120
mankind with

882
00:30:11,909 --> 00:30:09,919
text neck from text neck to social media

883
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:11,919
the answer to your question is to walk

884
00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:13,360
away from it

885
00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:16,720
and i don't think it's any more complex

886
00:30:22,389 --> 00:30:18,720
than that it's to disconnect

887
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:22,399
as often and as as quickly as you can

888
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:24,720
whether it's from social media or just

889
00:30:27,669 --> 00:30:25,919
leaving your phone at home

890
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:27,679
when you go outside or when you go

891
00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:29,600
somewhere it starts

892
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:32,159
with something simple like that um but i

893
00:30:34,549 --> 00:30:33,360
wanted to get your take what do you

894
00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:34,559
think about that because i've thought a

895
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:36,640
lot about it myself i think well god's

896
00:30:40,070 --> 00:30:38,880
supposedly perfect but scientists say

897
00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:40,080
he's imperfect

898
00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:42,320
so he created this imperfect species the

899
00:30:45,269 --> 00:30:43,919
scientists and the doctors and people

900
00:30:46,710 --> 00:30:45,279
like us

901
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:46,720
but yet we think we can create a more

902
00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:48,880
perfect world as imperfect beings

903
00:30:52,789 --> 00:30:51,039
it's just it's just like it's like

904
00:30:54,789 --> 00:30:52,799
profound arrogance i don't know what do

905
00:30:57,509 --> 00:30:54,799
you think about that

906
00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:57,519
you know it's such a good question and

907
00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:58,880
the only way to look at it is

908
00:31:02,470 --> 00:31:00,480
open-minded and i think

909
00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:02,480
the only open-minded way to look at it

910
00:31:06,549 --> 00:31:04,000
is kind of a reverse engineering

911
00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:06,559
it from a devil's advocate perspective

912
00:31:09,909 --> 00:31:07,840
which would maybe be

913
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:09,919
that the technology itself or the

914
00:31:15,269 --> 00:31:12,240
artificial intelligence

915
00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:15,279
is the god-like factor and that the

916
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:17,440
but see even then we're just more of a

917
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:18,320
carrier

918
00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:20,559
or a host and it's so demeaning so i'm

919
00:31:24,389 --> 00:31:21,360
with you i mean

920
00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:24,399
even even trying to defragment you know

921
00:31:27,830 --> 00:31:26,000
what i mean get it down to its

922
00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:27,840
smallest nitty-gritty level i'm with you

923
00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:30,480
it still doesn't make sense to me

924
00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:32,559
no and and that's another interesting

925
00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:33,600
thing i tried

926
00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:36,640
to talk about that toward the end of the

927
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:38,399
book where i got into the entertainment

928
00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:39,360
industry

929
00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:42,080
and i even did a chapter on ufos there's

930
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:44,399
a sectional ufo cults

931
00:31:48,149 --> 00:31:46,399
where yeah i kind of discussed the the

932
00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:48,159
fact that human beings

933
00:31:52,149 --> 00:31:50,240
and the entire planet our entire

934
00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:52,159
civilization across the globe is being

935
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:54,320
turned into a carrier

936
00:32:01,509 --> 00:31:57,600
for ai and i

937
00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:01,519
feel like with everything from

938
00:32:04,789 --> 00:32:03,760
the way in which we communicate through

939
00:32:07,509 --> 00:32:04,799
various digital

940
00:32:09,269 --> 00:32:07,519
technologies and being surrounded by

941
00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:09,279
electromagnetic frequencies

942
00:32:14,149 --> 00:32:12,640
uh and being surrounded by

943
00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:14,159
essentially what amounts to an

944
00:32:17,909 --> 00:32:16,000
environment of microwaves

945
00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:17,919
it's kind of like creating this this

946
00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:19,919
digital what i call a digital and others

947
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:22,159
call a digital sub-reality

948
00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:24,240
where we're plunk programmed and plugged

949
00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:25,760
into the system

950
00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:28,480
and we become a carrier for this this

951
00:32:33,029 --> 00:32:30,480
soul-sucking virus

952
00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:33,039
that replaces the the essence of what

953
00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:34,720
makes us human

954
00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:38,880
and to suggest that replacing organic

955
00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:41,600
life with synthetic life is somehow more

956
00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:42,640
human

957
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:44,960
is it's in its very essence very alien

958
00:32:49,149 --> 00:32:46,720
to what humans really are

959
00:32:50,549 --> 00:32:49,159
and so whether you classify alien as

960
00:32:53,269 --> 00:32:50,559
extraterrestrial or

961
00:32:55,029 --> 00:32:53,279
extra or interdimensional or you see the

962
00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:55,039
word alien is merely

963
00:32:59,830 --> 00:32:58,159
something foreign it would seem that

964
00:33:01,509 --> 00:32:59,840
there's some form of alien force

965
00:33:04,230 --> 00:33:01,519
responsible for this

966
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:04,240
and whether you talk about it as being

967
00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:06,240
alien or some might refer to it as

968
00:33:10,870 --> 00:33:07,679
demonic

969
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:10,880
the things that we utilize like you know

970
00:33:13,269 --> 00:33:12,640
your phones and your social medias and

971
00:33:15,430 --> 00:33:13,279
your

972
00:33:17,669 --> 00:33:15,440
smart devices i mean those really are

973
00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:17,679
the possessions that we possess

974
00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:20,960
that ultimately take possession of us

975
00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:22,960
and therefore our bodies and our

976
00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:24,960
consciousness does become a carrier

977
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:28,159
for artificial intelligence um

978
00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:31,120
be that it's minor you know infantile

979
00:33:34,389 --> 00:33:32,799
intelligence or something much more

980
00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:34,399
complex that we

981
00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:38,399
can't begin to understand and i think um

982
00:33:41,909 --> 00:33:40,559
lastly on this point there's one there's

983
00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:41,919
one component to this that i find

984
00:33:43,909 --> 00:33:43,200
interesting i try to think outside the

985
00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:43,919
box

986
00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:44,960
and when people think well we're going

987
00:33:48,470 --> 00:33:46,960
to be connected to machines and where to

988
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:48,480
be connected to this this

989
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:51,360
this artificially intelligent uh run

990
00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:52,240
artificial

991
00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:55,360
you know reality even though people like

992
00:33:58,230 --> 00:33:56,960
elon musk and i talk about this in the

993
00:33:59,190 --> 00:33:58,240
book they've got their neural link

994
00:34:00,630 --> 00:33:59,200
system

995
00:34:02,950 --> 00:34:00,640
and they want to hook you directly up to

996
00:34:05,269 --> 00:34:02,960
wires and you know microchips

997
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:05,279
that's not how it all goes down i don't

998
00:34:07,909 --> 00:34:06,000
think

999
00:34:09,349 --> 00:34:07,919
that might be the end game to physically

1000
00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:09,359
connect you to something

1001
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:10,879
but i don't even know if that's true i

1002
00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:13,520
think that happens

1003
00:34:19,109 --> 00:34:16,960
through slow assimilation i think it

1004
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:19,119
happens through the usage of your phone

1005
00:34:23,589 --> 00:34:21,119
and your tablet and your computer the

1006
00:34:25,349 --> 00:34:23,599
black mirror that we stare into

1007
00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:25,359
we stare into the abyss and we become

1008
00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:27,040
the abyss and we lose a lot of our

1009
00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:28,720
consciousness and our awareness in the

1010
00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:29,679
process

1011
00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:32,720
attention spans plummet our ability to

1012
00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:33,599
communicate

1013
00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:36,159
is decimated and it's not done through

1014
00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:36,800
any direct

1015
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:39,200
physical aggressive means nobody's

1016
00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:41,280
physically assaulting us or holding us

1017
00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:42,240
down

1018
00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:44,639
we're being given these devices as ways

1019
00:34:50,149 --> 00:34:46,800
in which to make our lives easier

1020
00:34:52,869 --> 00:34:50,159
less complicated etcetera etcetera

1021
00:34:54,629 --> 00:34:52,879
and what happens is we lose our ability

1022
00:34:57,910 --> 00:34:54,639
to communicate and think for ourselves

1023
00:35:00,069 --> 00:34:57,920
in the same way as if we did have wires

1024
00:35:01,829 --> 00:35:00,079
connected to our brains and microchips

1025
00:35:03,910 --> 00:35:01,839
and so the idea of assimilating us into

1026
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:03,920
a computer system consciousness whatever

1027
00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:05,040
they want to call it i

1028
00:35:07,829 --> 00:35:06,320
can't think you can really upload

1029
00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:07,839
consciousness but you could upload

1030
00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:09,359
memories

1031
00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:10,720
when you think about that it's not that

1032
00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:12,560
they need to hook you up to a computer

1033
00:35:18,310 --> 00:35:15,760
to do that all they need to do is begin

1034
00:35:20,470 --> 00:35:18,320
the upload process through things like

1035
00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:20,480
social media all your photos

1036
00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:22,640
for sure all your posts even things you

1037
00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:24,640
type and don't post and delete

1038
00:35:29,109 --> 00:35:26,720
all of that is categories especially the

1039
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:29,119
digital avatars created in a virtual

1040
00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:31,920
you is created like a digital invasion

1041
00:35:35,910 --> 00:35:33,359
of the body statues

1042
00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:35,920
there's already a replica everybody

1043
00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:37,839
anyone who's ever used social media

1044
00:35:42,790 --> 00:35:40,960
even in a in a minor capacity there's a

1045
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:42,800
digital replication of you some might be

1046
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:44,640
more complete some or less complete

1047
00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:48,079
it's all there and i think therefore

1048
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:50,320
that's the way that we are uploaded into

1049
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:51,119
a machine

1050
00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:54,160
a digital replication and then the

1051
00:35:57,670 --> 00:35:56,000
physical replication

1052
00:35:59,349 --> 00:35:57,680
or the physical version the digital

1053
00:36:03,109 --> 00:35:59,359
replication was made from

1054
00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:03,119
becomes totally obsolete and becomes

1055
00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:05,839
unnecessary and now there's this digital

1056
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:06,880
environment

1057
00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:08,800
where we've had all of our information

1058
00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:11,760
and with algorithms and

1059
00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:13,359
tracking system that can you know

1060
00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:14,960
determine movement and

1061
00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:17,359
and behavior patterns it basically

1062
00:36:20,069 --> 00:36:19,760
becomes a digital world like a matrix

1063
00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:20,079
where

1064
00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:22,640
humans can interact in this simulation

1065
00:36:24,790 --> 00:36:24,240
but consciousness is removed in the

1066
00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:24,800
process

1067
00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:26,240
and they don't have to hook you up to a

1068
00:36:29,430 --> 00:36:28,160
machine to do it all you have to do is

1069
00:36:32,069 --> 00:36:29,440
log into facebook

1070
00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:32,079
or use amazon and i talk about that all

1071
00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:33,680
in the book with the different systems

1072
00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:35,119
and the way that they actually

1073
00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:37,599
uh run them officially i think that's a

1074
00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:39,200
very terrifying thing i'm glad that you

1075
00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:40,960
brought that up

1076
00:36:45,910 --> 00:36:43,760
it's really pretty horrifying because as

1077
00:36:46,550 --> 00:36:45,920
you say once the human brain has been

1078
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:46,560
mapped

1079
00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:49,200
in this way or this sequence once they

1080
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:49,599
have

1081
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:51,599
patterned and perfectly explained what

1082
00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:52,720
your next move is

1083
00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:55,040
much like a rat in a cage they don't

1084
00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:56,480
really care about you because they know

1085
00:37:00,790 --> 00:36:57,680
what your next move is

1086
00:37:02,310 --> 00:37:00,800
and it's kind of a scary position to be

1087
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:02,320
in

1088
00:37:05,829 --> 00:37:04,079
yeah because then you don't know if your

1089
00:37:06,790 --> 00:37:05,839
own thoughts are your own thoughts and

1090
00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:06,800
maybe

1091
00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:11,280
not so much that

1092
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:16,240
there is uh you know a technological

1093
00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:19,680
invasive thing element component

1094
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:21,599
maybe the whole idea is to get you to

1095
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:23,520
think that there is something far more

1096
00:37:27,589 --> 00:37:24,640
advanced

1097
00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:27,599
so you begin to kind of question are

1098
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:29,200
these my own thoughts

1099
00:37:32,950 --> 00:37:30,960
and then it drives your it drives you

1100
00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:32,960
crazy or maybe it's a combination of

1101
00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:33,760
both

1102
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:34,880
i don't know those are the things that

1103
00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:36,960
thinking out the box because i mean in

1104
00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:38,320
terms of thinking out the box i think

1105
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:40,079
those things are important to

1106
00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:42,960
continue to progress in your ideas so

1107
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:44,240
you don't get stuck

1108
00:37:47,670 --> 00:37:46,079
you know believing that well technology

1109
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:47,680
is bad because i don't like it or

1110
00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:49,440
technology is good because i like it

1111
00:37:53,589 --> 00:37:51,920
it's the more important i think to think

1112
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:53,599
well there's benefits and downsides

1113
00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:54,320
which as i

1114
00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:56,320
explored in the book i explained and

1115
00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:58,079
then that takes us through the process

1116
00:38:05,190 --> 00:37:58,640
of

1117
00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:05,200
this artist

1118
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:07,119
turning this artificial sub-reality this

1119
00:38:10,950 --> 00:38:08,560
digital sub-reality

1120
00:38:12,069 --> 00:38:10,960
and becoming a host for these artificial

1121
00:38:14,230 --> 00:38:12,079
systems

1122
00:38:15,990 --> 00:38:14,240
and then thinking well how do we upload

1123
00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:16,000
ourselves into this system

1124
00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:18,160
and realizing we do it every time we use

1125
00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:20,480
social media every time we log on to the

1126
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:21,520
internet every

1127
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:23,520
it's accumulating all this data it's

1128
00:38:26,550 --> 00:38:25,520
basically sucking the life force out of

1129
00:38:29,349 --> 00:38:26,560
humans like some

1130
00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:29,359
alien you know invasion uh which in and

1131
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:31,040
of itself could be literal it could be

1132
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:32,800
figurative it could be a metaphor

1133
00:38:36,150 --> 00:38:35,440
and the end game of all of that is a

1134
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:36,160
total

1135
00:38:39,349 --> 00:38:38,560
simulation of the real world where we

1136
00:38:42,870 --> 00:38:39,359
don't know

1137
00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:42,880
why we're doing things we're just

1138
00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:43,599
basically

1139
00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:47,440
operating in some sims like video game

1140
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:51,200
exactly and you know it's very strange

1141
00:38:55,109 --> 00:38:53,280
that in your book you mention a few

1142
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:55,119
times what the director of engineering

1143
00:38:58,790 --> 00:38:56,240
at google

1144
00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:58,800
uh says and has already expressed and

1145
00:39:02,069 --> 00:39:00,480
one if i if you don't mind i'm going to

1146
00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:02,079
read one

1147
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:04,960
yeah one of the horrifying comments is

1148
00:39:08,310 --> 00:39:06,720
nanobots will infuse

1149
00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:08,320
all the matter around us with

1150
00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:10,800
information rocks trees and everything

1151
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:12,720
will become these intelligent computers

1152
00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:14,880
and at that point we can expand

1153
00:39:18,510 --> 00:39:16,800
out into the rest of the universe we

1154
00:39:21,190 --> 00:39:18,520
will be sending out basically

1155
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:21,200
nanotechnology infused with artificial

1156
00:39:24,470 --> 00:39:22,320
intelligence

1157
00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:24,480
swarms of those will go out into the

1158
00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:26,240
universe and basically find

1159
00:39:30,069 --> 00:39:28,480
other matter and energy that we can

1160
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:30,079
harness to expand the overall

1161
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:31,440
intelligence of our human

1162
00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:34,800
machine civilization

1163
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:36,079
that sounds like something from the

1164
00:39:42,310 --> 00:39:39,680
board doesn't it yes oh my gosh

1165
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:42,320
frightening yeah it doesn't it doesn't

1166
00:39:46,870 --> 00:39:44,240
really sound that human in fact

1167
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:46,880
what it sounds like to me it actually

1168
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:48,480
sounds very similar

1169
00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:50,160
and i honestly didn't think of this

1170
00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:52,079
until right now it sounds really

1171
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:55,280
similar quote to um

1172
00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:57,040
i don't remember if i quote quote the

1173
00:40:01,030 --> 00:39:58,400
whole thing in the book but

1174
00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:01,040
have you ever listened to jordy rose the

1175
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:03,040
inventor of the d-wave computer talk

1176
00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:04,800
about what that computer can be used to

1177
00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:06,640
do have you heard that famous

1178
00:40:10,150 --> 00:40:09,599
talk i've heard i believe him referred

1179
00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:10,160
to it

1180
00:40:14,069 --> 00:40:12,800
as standing before an alien god and

1181
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:14,079
that's about his is

1182
00:40:17,109 --> 00:40:15,760
that kind of that direction is that what

1183
00:40:18,790 --> 00:40:17,119
you mean

1184
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:18,800
yeah and i don't remember it was that

1185
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:20,960
exact talk but in one of the talks he

1186
00:40:23,829 --> 00:40:21,839
gave

1187
00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:23,839
and a friend of mine kev baker from the

1188
00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:26,000
kev baker show gave him a shout out he

1189
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:27,440
interviewed jordy rose which was a

1190
00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:29,760
really cool interview and he asked him

1191
00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:30,240
about

1192
00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:31,760
the comments that he had made in this

1193
00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:34,560
other talk and uh jordy rose just this

1194
00:40:37,349 --> 00:40:34,960
guy

1195
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:37,359
who didn't even get into college wasn't

1196
00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:38,640
accepted into college but built the

1197
00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:40,319
first quantum computer

1198
00:40:45,430 --> 00:40:43,920
and when he um when he was giving talks

1199
00:40:47,430 --> 00:40:45,440
on this he was talking about how this

1200
00:40:49,430 --> 00:40:47,440
computer a quantum computer

1201
00:40:50,710 --> 00:40:49,440
could be used to go into other

1202
00:40:53,109 --> 00:40:50,720
dimensions

1203
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:53,119
and extract resources and energy from

1204
00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:53,760
them

1205
00:40:58,309 --> 00:40:56,319
to feed our own world and so it just

1206
00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:58,319
kind of sounds very similar to that

1207
00:41:02,069 --> 00:41:00,800
that quotation about using you know the

1208
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:02,079
nanobots

1209
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:05,040
um to go out and to extract these

1210
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:06,560
resources and this energy for our

1211
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:08,560
machine civilization

1212
00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:11,760
um it makes you think or at least it

1213
00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:13,359
makes me think

1214
00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:15,440
uh just like peter diamandis from the

1215
00:41:20,230 --> 00:41:16,880
singularity university

1216
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:20,240
said uh you know this is going to happen

1217
00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:21,920
whether you like it or not

1218
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:24,319
this is essentially that this is the

1219
00:41:28,309 --> 00:41:26,000
future it doesn't matter if you don't

1220
00:41:31,349 --> 00:41:28,319
want to participate you will do it

1221
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:31,359
i mean that is virtually another way of

1222
00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:32,079
saying

1223
00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:34,720
exactly what the borg said in star trek

1224
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:36,319
we are the board

1225
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:38,160
your you know your biological and

1226
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:39,760
technological distinct and this will

1227
00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:40,560
become our own

1228
00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:43,920
you will assimilate uh resistance is

1229
00:41:46,309 --> 00:41:44,640
futile

1230
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:46,319
yep and i don't know if they tell us

1231
00:41:50,069 --> 00:41:48,400
those types of things from you know big

1232
00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:50,079
companies like google and peter

1233
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:51,520
diamandis and others

1234
00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:52,960
if they tell us those things because

1235
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:54,880
they want us to feel weak and inferior

1236
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:56,400
and that they're super intelligent and

1237
00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:58,240
we should do what they say

1238
00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:01,200
or if that's kind of just like some i

1239
00:42:05,589 --> 00:42:03,440
don't know alien propaganda

1240
00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:05,599
that we're listening to and likewise as

1241
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:07,839
a species we just feel inferior so we do

1242
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:09,599
what they tell us to do

1243
00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:12,000
you know or if these people are just so

1244
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:14,000
ridiculously arrogant

1245
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:16,480
they don't care how ludicrous it sounds

1246
00:42:19,030 --> 00:42:17,200
they're mad

1247
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:19,040
scientists they don't care about the

1248
00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:20,640
repercussions and they're just gonna do

1249
00:42:23,910 --> 00:42:21,599
it anyway

1250
00:42:25,589 --> 00:42:23,920
or if it's a combination of all that

1251
00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:25,599
when you start to piece it together

1252
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:28,240
and i really appreciate and respect you

1253
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:29,280
for

1254
00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:30,960
you i mean you know you're i know that

1255
00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:34,160
i'm on some kind of a right path

1256
00:42:37,829 --> 00:42:35,760
if you're picking those things out of

1257
00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:37,839
the book it's not like i bolded them in

1258
00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:38,720
the book to

1259
00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:41,200
highlight them you're picking out of the

1260
00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:43,040
book like some of the key points that i

1261
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:44,160
tried to make

1262
00:42:47,349 --> 00:42:46,560
and that i hope every time i send a copy

1263
00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:47,359
of the book out

1264
00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:48,960
i hope other people are seeing those

1265
00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:50,480
things so it's encouraging that you're

1266
00:42:53,829 --> 00:42:52,000
picking those things out

1267
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:53,839
and i'm hoping it's because you and

1268
00:42:57,030 --> 00:42:55,440
others who read the book and

1269
00:42:59,190 --> 00:42:57,040
you know maybe listen to my show or like

1270
00:43:01,750 --> 00:42:59,200
listen to your show they realize

1271
00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:01,760
that those are not only very important

1272
00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:03,200
pieces but they realize why they're

1273
00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:04,560
important pieces because

1274
00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:06,000
when you put them all together you

1275
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:08,000
realize oh these aren't isolated

1276
00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:11,040
comments these aren't isolated you know

1277
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:12,800
topics this is all part of some

1278
00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:14,640
overarching agenda

1279
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:17,280
and it's it's completely anti-human and

1280
00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:18,880
it sounds like something from a sci-fi

1281
00:43:23,349 --> 00:43:20,640
script

1282
00:43:25,829 --> 00:43:23,359
it's horrifying the way it discusses the

1283
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:25,839
trees and the animals much like it has

1284
00:43:29,349 --> 00:43:26,560
probably

1285
00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:29,359
it discussed us and the artificial

1286
00:43:33,910 --> 00:43:31,280
intelligence of an alien form

1287
00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:33,920
is something that you come across in the

1288
00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:35,599
paranormal often you know when people

1289
00:43:40,309 --> 00:43:37,680
talk about something manifesting and

1290
00:43:40,870 --> 00:43:40,319
d manifesting it's often explained in

1291
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:40,880
this

1292
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:44,560
swarm or like these little nanobots is

1293
00:43:48,309 --> 00:43:45,119
just

1294
00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:48,319
deforming or a hologram deforming right

1295
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:50,720
there's a lot of bleed over into the

1296
00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:51,760
paranormal

1297
00:43:55,349 --> 00:43:53,680
and i wanted to kind of bleed over for a

1298
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:55,359
second and ask you

1299
00:43:58,390 --> 00:43:57,200
uh what it's like working with clyde

1300
00:44:00,309 --> 00:43:58,400
lewis man that's

1301
00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:00,319
you've done it more than so many people

1302
00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:02,560
and you've put in so much time on the

1303
00:44:08,150 --> 00:44:05,440
air what's that like

1304
00:44:09,910 --> 00:44:08,160
well i have like a personal relationship

1305
00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:09,920
with clyde i met him at a conference

1306
00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:11,119
years ago

1307
00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:13,520
and before i even knew who clyde was and

1308
00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:14,640
i'll answer your question

1309
00:44:18,069 --> 00:44:16,560
quickly here but before i even knew who

1310
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:18,079
clyde was or anybody

1311
00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:21,200
in the radio industry i

1312
00:44:25,670 --> 00:44:23,359
found his show one night not knowing who

1313
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:25,680
he was and i remember listening to it

1314
00:44:28,710 --> 00:44:26,400
and this was

1315
00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:28,720
i was doing amateur radio at the time at

1316
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:30,560
a college radio station

1317
00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:33,599
as a volunteer and i would look at

1318
00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:35,280
things and i would talk about things

1319
00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:36,000
that interested

1320
00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:38,640
me and i was talking you know in part

1321
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:39,839
about a super bowl

1322
00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:41,680
halftime show at the time years and

1323
00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:42,960
years and years ago

1324
00:44:45,670 --> 00:44:44,480
and i first heard his show and i and i

1325
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:45,680
didn't know who he was didn't know much

1326
00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:47,200
about radio and i just thought this guy

1327
00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:49,520
stole my stuff who is this guy

1328
00:44:53,829 --> 00:44:51,520
and so when i met clyde later i realized

1329
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:53,839
oh he does like the same thing i

1330
00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:55,920
do not it's not because i'm smarter he's

1331
00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:57,040
smart he just

1332
00:45:01,430 --> 00:44:59,520
he sees the world like i do so i you

1333
00:45:03,349 --> 00:45:01,440
know i talked to him and

1334
00:45:05,589 --> 00:45:03,359
uh he knew he had heard of me and knew

1335
00:45:07,829 --> 00:45:05,599
who i was and so we started talking and

1336
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:07,839
thought you know we we would do uh very

1337
00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:09,520
well in the radio together so

1338
00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:11,200
you know as we became friends he's just

1339
00:45:16,309 --> 00:45:13,119
invited me on the show and

1340
00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:16,319
um i love clyde love ground zero and

1341
00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:16,800
i've

1342
00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:19,839
radio i just have a very strong

1343
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:21,359
connection with him and a handful of

1344
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:22,319
other people

1345
00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:24,960
uh like my good friend joe roof as well

1346
00:45:29,829 --> 00:45:27,200
and we uh

1347
00:45:30,470 --> 00:45:29,839
we i think are kind of like minorities

1348
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:30,480
in the world

1349
00:45:36,710 --> 00:45:34,079
of subject matter

1350
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:36,720
because we don't really take a stand on

1351
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:38,800
things that are political or religious

1352
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:40,400
we really try to step back

1353
00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:42,720
and i mean this in relation to clyde we

1354
00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:43,920
really try to step back

1355
00:45:48,069 --> 00:45:46,160
and we try to look at all sides as many

1356
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:48,079
sides and create new sides and look at

1357
00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:49,359
new dimensions

1358
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:50,800
the subjects to provide different

1359
00:45:54,390 --> 00:45:52,560
perspectives on them

1360
00:45:55,990 --> 00:45:54,400
that's why i love working with clyde

1361
00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:56,000
because he can do that

1362
00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:57,760
and there aren't many people who can do

1363
00:46:02,390 --> 00:46:00,640
that in their personal lives let alone

1364
00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:02,400
in on a national radio show because

1365
00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:04,319
they're scared of the repercussions

1366
00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:06,000
so it's pretty it's pretty incredible

1367
00:46:08,710 --> 00:46:07,520
experience it kind of feels surreal

1368
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:08,720
working with him or

1369
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:10,960
anybody i mean i i spend time with jim

1370
00:46:14,309 --> 00:46:12,640
mars and i used to grow up watching

1371
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:14,319
him on the history channel and that was

1372
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:16,880
surreal right i don't even

1373
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:19,280
i can't put my finger on reality anymore

1374
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:20,400
you know

1375
00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:22,640
from working with those people or just

1376
00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:23,520
writing books

1377
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:25,200
i was terrible in english class and now

1378
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:27,440
i've written three huge books i have

1379
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:29,040
i have no clue what reality is anymore

1380
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:31,200
buddy amazing very surreal and

1381
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:33,760
i'm very grateful for it and and they

1382
00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:34,560
really are

1383
00:46:38,950 --> 00:46:36,720
just all magnum opus amazing books we

1384
00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:38,960
didn't really delve into food philosophy

1385
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:40,640
but it's because the other stuff is so

1386
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:41,520
juicy

1387
00:46:47,990 --> 00:46:45,040
and it is um it's it's super crazy

1388
00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:48,000
how the symbolism in your book i love

1389
00:46:52,230 --> 00:46:48,400
how

1390
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:52,240
you have for example uh mirrors present

1391
00:46:56,150 --> 00:46:54,240
much like the black mirror you mentioned

1392
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:56,160
you know our new mirror mirror on the

1393
00:46:58,870 --> 00:46:56,560
wall

1394
00:47:00,150 --> 00:46:58,880
is literally our phone it's not how do

1395
00:47:02,309 --> 00:47:00,160
you look it's how do you look

1396
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:02,319
in the eyes of others through this

1397
00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:05,040
device or medium telling you this

1398
00:47:08,069 --> 00:47:07,520
and this device or medium can tell you

1399
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:08,079
whatever

1400
00:47:11,670 --> 00:47:10,480
it wants and and you'd go into that in

1401
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:11,680
so many ways

1402
00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:14,319
um advertising lastly i wanted to kind

1403
00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:16,000
of get into some of the advertising and

1404
00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:16,640
kind of

1405
00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:19,280
maybe meld that into the food philosophy

1406
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:21,040
and some of these food-like products

1407
00:47:26,470 --> 00:47:22,960
that they're trying to

1408
00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:26,480
shove down our throats yes

1409
00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:28,640
that's that's a subject that i i love

1410
00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:30,240
getting sarcastic about and laughing

1411
00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:32,720
about because some of the advertisements

1412
00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:34,400
and some of the ingredients on food

1413
00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:36,000
products if we can even call them that

1414
00:47:39,910 --> 00:47:38,079
are so ridiculous and outlandish

1415
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:39,920
that the only thing i can do is laugh at

1416
00:47:45,430 --> 00:47:43,119
it i can't even get upset about it

1417
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:45,440
on the subject of advertising and things

1418
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:47,200
like that

1419
00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:49,760
you know that marketing and advertising

1420
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:51,359
and i mean you in the general sense all

1421
00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:52,720
of us know that it's

1422
00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:54,800
it's marketing right it's just that's

1423
00:47:58,150 --> 00:47:56,000
it's like a verb it's the way

1424
00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:58,160
we do things it's just deceptive and

1425
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:59,440
manipulative

1426
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:01,440
it's it's often just misleading

1427
00:48:04,710 --> 00:48:02,640
sometimes outright

1428
00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:04,720
lies there's no regulation on certain

1429
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:05,680
words and

1430
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:07,920
even if there were it means very little

1431
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:09,839
and so when you look at

1432
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:12,319
a package of food you know a package of

1433
00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:12,880
food

1434
00:48:16,790 --> 00:48:15,920
that says you know no sugar added or no

1435
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:16,800
fat added

1436
00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:18,160
and it could be loaded with sugar and

1437
00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:19,920
fat but they didn't add any more so it's

1438
00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:21,760
very deceptive in that way

1439
00:48:24,790 --> 00:48:23,280
it's very much like our little black

1440
00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:24,800
mirror phones that you just mentioned

1441
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:25,440
again

1442
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:27,200
because if you look at the mythos of the

1443
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:29,280
magic mirror the magic mirror and the

1444
00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:30,800
mirror and snow white

1445
00:48:35,589 --> 00:48:32,880
it can't lie the magic mirror doesn't

1446
00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:35,599
lie all our black mirror devices do is

1447
00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:36,240
lie

1448
00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:41,839
we have to go find things that are more

1449
00:48:45,510 --> 00:48:43,280
accurate for ourselves

1450
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:45,520
and the same thing is true in terms of

1451
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:47,520
food and packages and you know cans and

1452
00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:48,400
bags

1453
00:48:52,150 --> 00:48:50,240
anything like that that has to yell at

1454
00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:52,160
us hey i've got vitamin a hey i've got

1455
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:52,640
sugar

1456
00:48:58,390 --> 00:48:57,119
those things are very misleading and

1457
00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:58,400
very deceptive

1458
00:49:01,990 --> 00:49:00,720
and yet when you go to a supermarket and

1459
00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:02,000
i i just think it's kind of funny

1460
00:49:05,030 --> 00:49:03,599
because i like going to grocery stores

1461
00:49:07,270 --> 00:49:05,040
just to look around

1462
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:07,280
um i guess i'm an aficionado i love to

1463
00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:08,640
do that and i'll go to a grocery store

1464
00:49:11,349 --> 00:49:09,760
and i'll just think

1465
00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:11,359
now go to the produce department and

1466
00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:13,839
there's no there's not like a tomato

1467
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:15,280
you know over there with a label that

1468
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:17,280
says with now with vitamin c

1469
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:19,040
tomatoes always have vitamin c they have

1470
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:20,640
a lot of it if you eat them raw

1471
00:49:23,349 --> 00:49:22,079
and they're really good and they're good

1472
00:49:24,549 --> 00:49:23,359
for you and you don't like tomatoes

1473
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:24,559
there's literally thousands of other

1474
00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:26,400
products and they're all colorful

1475
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:27,839
and when you go to the processed foods

1476
00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:29,440
most of them are brown

1477
00:49:33,270 --> 00:49:31,359
they're virtually identical they're

1478
00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:33,280
filled with sugar and fat and salt and a

1479
00:49:37,270 --> 00:49:34,960
bunch of other things

1480
00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:37,280
and and what these things in excess do

1481
00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:38,720
is a subject for another

1482
00:49:42,950 --> 00:49:40,640
you know a topic for another show and a

1483
00:49:44,069 --> 00:49:42,960
topic for people that are more qualified

1484
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:44,079
in nutrition

1485
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:45,359
but i just like to point out the

1486
00:49:49,349 --> 00:49:47,920
absurdities and some of the ingredients

1487
00:49:51,109 --> 00:49:49,359
and you know when you look at things

1488
00:49:53,109 --> 00:49:51,119
like propylene glycol which is

1489
00:49:53,430 --> 00:49:53,119
essentially antifreeze and when they put

1490
00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:53,440
that

1491
00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:56,640
into a blueberry muffin and the

1492
00:50:00,470 --> 00:49:58,240
blueberries and most blueberry muffins

1493
00:50:02,630 --> 00:50:00,480
aren't even blueberries they're gelatin

1494
00:50:03,589 --> 00:50:02,640
which is mostly made out of animal uh

1495
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:03,599
bone

1496
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:05,280
and then they fill that gelatin with

1497
00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:07,200
like blue dye and antifreeze

1498
00:50:11,829 --> 00:50:09,520
and and blue um what do they call it

1499
00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:11,839
like blueberry flavoring

1500
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:13,520
it's not even a blueberry and even if

1501
00:50:16,069 --> 00:50:15,359
you're a vegan and you eat this vegan

1502
00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:16,079
muffin

1503
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:17,359
a lot of times it's not even vegan

1504
00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:19,040
because it's a gelatin that they make

1505
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:20,480
the blueberries out of it's not even

1506
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:23,280
real to me that kind of stuff irked me

1507
00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:24,480
when i learned it and i thought

1508
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:26,800
why didn't anybody tell me this you know

1509
00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:28,079
it's like that interview with prince

1510
00:50:31,510 --> 00:50:30,079
where he's like i was mad when people

1511
00:50:33,190 --> 00:50:31,520
when i found out that there were eight

1512
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:33,200
presidents before george washington you

1513
00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:34,640
know just tell me the truth and i'll

1514
00:50:38,390 --> 00:50:36,640
figure the rest out for myself

1515
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:38,400
so when i learned those things i had to

1516
00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:40,720
tell people so that's kind of one of the

1517
00:50:44,870 --> 00:50:43,200
ways i started in radio

1518
00:50:46,230 --> 00:50:44,880
and i wanted to share people share with

1519
00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:46,240
people things whether it was about you

1520
00:50:48,710 --> 00:50:46,640
know

1521
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:48,720
egyptology and mythology or it's about

1522
00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:49,760
food ingredients and

1523
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:51,599
whatever i wanted to share with people

1524
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:53,200
the things that i had learned

1525
00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:55,440
and so when i wrote food philosophy and

1526
00:50:59,190 --> 00:50:57,599
then i revised it and updated it into a

1527
00:51:01,990 --> 00:50:59,200
second edition to include

1528
00:51:02,630 --> 00:51:02,000
germ theory and things like that i wrote

1529
00:51:06,309 --> 00:51:02,640
it

1530
00:51:08,549 --> 00:51:06,319
industry

1531
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:08,559
even you know pet foods are in their

1532
00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:10,240
vaccines are in there and it's nothing

1533
00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:12,720
that promotes an idea it's just like hey

1534
00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:15,599
this is what uh companies are doing it

1535
00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:18,000
doesn't mean i'm pro or auntie anything

1536
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:19,119
and if you don't know if you've noticed

1537
00:51:22,870 --> 00:51:21,520
but in that book at the end of it

1538
00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:22,880
there's a section

1539
00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:26,319
on climate engineering climate change

1540
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:27,440
and things like that

1541
00:51:31,190 --> 00:51:29,920
and that actually is how the technology

1542
00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:31,200
book begins

1543
00:51:34,549 --> 00:51:33,280
so it takes you from the basic

1544
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:34,559
understand the basic

1545
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:36,720
information about health and and

1546
00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:38,400
information on the history of like

1547
00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:39,760
medicine and

1548
00:51:43,910 --> 00:51:42,559
germ theory and disease and packaged

1549
00:51:46,309 --> 00:51:43,920
foods and

1550
00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:46,319
fast food and things like that it takes

1551
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:46,960
you into

1552
00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:49,119
to the environment and the health of the

1553
00:51:52,950 --> 00:51:50,640
environment and then it takes you into

1554
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:52,960
when you read the technology book

1555
00:51:58,069 --> 00:51:56,960
it takes the the the the baton from food

1556
00:52:00,870 --> 00:51:58,079
philosophy

1557
00:52:01,910 --> 00:52:00,880
takes you all through technology all the

1558
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:01,920
way into

1559
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:04,720
the occult through the music industry

1560
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:06,079
and ufology

1561
00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:07,839
and then that takes you into a cult

1562
00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:10,559
arcana which is kind of the basis

1563
00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:13,040
in in my view and in my experience the

1564
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:15,200
basis for all the things that i analyze

1565
00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:17,920
all the things that i talk about and so

1566
00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:20,000
i didn't intend for it to be this way

1567
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:21,119
but

1568
00:52:24,790 --> 00:52:23,280
um as i'm very thankful for you pointing

1569
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:24,800
out all three books tonight

1570
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:26,480
all three books really are like a

1571
00:52:30,309 --> 00:52:28,800
trilogy and it starts you in something

1572
00:52:32,710 --> 00:52:30,319
simple like food

1573
00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:32,720
and it takes you in kind of like an

1574
00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:34,240
alchemical

1575
00:52:39,030 --> 00:52:37,520
initiate initiatory ritual through a

1576
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:39,040
self-discovery process

1577
00:52:44,069 --> 00:52:42,480
of food to technology to an unseen

1578
00:52:46,950 --> 00:52:44,079
spiritual dimension

1579
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:46,960
and i hope i feel like it has you i hope

1580
00:52:49,349 --> 00:52:48,640
that it helps other people when they

1581
00:52:53,349 --> 00:52:49,359
read

1582
00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:53,359
three of them or listen to my show

1583
00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:55,440
the only intention i have is for people

1584
00:53:00,069 --> 00:52:56,880
to learn things

1585
00:53:02,309 --> 00:53:00,079
read food philosophy and learn oh msg

1586
00:53:03,270 --> 00:53:02,319
might not be in this product monosodium

1587
00:53:06,069 --> 00:53:03,280
glutamate

1588
00:53:07,270 --> 00:53:06,079
but they put you know autolyze yeast

1589
00:53:09,829 --> 00:53:07,280
extract into it

1590
00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:09,839
that's still msg they're lying to me

1591
00:53:12,309 --> 00:53:11,359
when you read about technology you

1592
00:53:13,670 --> 00:53:12,319
realize

1593
00:53:15,430 --> 00:53:13,680
oh they're not really going to hook my

1594
00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:15,440
brain up to a computer and upload my

1595
00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:16,240
thoughts

1596
00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:20,160
and then you think

1597
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:22,480
well you know i uh i've heard a lot

1598
00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:23,760
about you know

1599
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:25,760
the the the summoning of demons and

1600
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:26,880
magic and

1601
00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:28,480
whatever your view is on those things

1602
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:30,319
you read a cult arcana and you realize

1603
00:53:33,430 --> 00:53:31,440
well demons and

1604
00:53:34,790 --> 00:53:33,440
things like this these are just thought

1605
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:34,800
processes these are just

1606
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:36,480
you know manifestations of things that

1607
00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:38,400
we we are trying to conquer

1608
00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:40,559
with thought and with study and

1609
00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:42,480
knowledge and we want to obtain wisdom

1610
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:43,440
and grow

1611
00:53:47,270 --> 00:53:44,880
and so hopefully when you read those

1612
00:53:47,829 --> 00:53:47,280
three books when you follow that train

1613
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:47,839
of thought

1614
00:53:50,950 --> 00:53:49,680
and the only intention you have is to

1615
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:50,960
obtain wisdom and

1616
00:53:55,109 --> 00:53:54,240
to grow then that i think is the purpose

1617
00:53:57,750 --> 00:53:55,119
of life and that

1618
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:57,760
is true human evolution that is the true

1619
00:54:02,390 --> 00:53:59,119
substance of the soul

1620
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:02,400
not packaged processed foods and not

1621
00:54:06,950 --> 00:54:04,960
and you know i eat them sometimes too i

1622
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:06,960
try to eat very very um

1623
00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:09,280
simple ones like rice cakes or something

1624
00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:10,720
but that's not that doesn't feed

1625
00:54:13,990 --> 00:54:13,040
the body it doesn't even feed the soul

1626
00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:14,000
what feeds the soul

1627
00:54:18,710 --> 00:54:16,800
is information knowledge wisdom and the

1628
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:18,720
intuitions that we have that we know

1629
00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:20,880
something is right we know something is

1630
00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:23,040
is accurate not based on bias but based

1631
00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:24,800
on an inherent knowing

1632
00:54:28,549 --> 00:54:26,960
this takes us to the process i believe

1633
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:28,559
what i would call

1634
00:54:32,549 --> 00:54:31,680
a true initiation into the secret

1635
00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:32,559
teachings

1636
00:54:36,069 --> 00:54:35,200
of all ages and into the mysteries and

1637
00:54:38,230 --> 00:54:36,079
that i believe

1638
00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:38,240
is far more powerful than anything the

1639
00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:39,119
food industry

1640
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:41,119
anything the technology industry

1641
00:54:44,549 --> 00:54:43,040
anything the media or anything anybody

1642
00:54:45,190 --> 00:54:44,559
else tells us or tries to get us to

1643
00:54:47,990 --> 00:54:45,200
believe it's

1644
00:54:49,829 --> 00:54:48,000
real self-empowerment and it terrifies

1645
00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:49,839
not just individuals but it terrifies

1646
00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:50,480
those

1647
00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:52,480
who otherwise only have power because

1648
00:54:57,670 --> 00:54:53,680
they trick us

1649
00:54:59,670 --> 00:54:57,680
into thinking we have none exactly

1650
00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:59,680
and they always seem to do it with a two

1651
00:55:02,390 --> 00:55:00,720
choice it's

1652
00:55:04,950 --> 00:55:02,400
good and bad like you mentioned light

1653
00:55:08,230 --> 00:55:04,960
and dark i love how you see things

1654
00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:08,240
very yin yang much like the baphomet you

1655
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:09,839
know people cannot deal with the

1656
00:55:13,349 --> 00:55:11,359
baphomet yet

1657
00:55:15,109 --> 00:55:13,359
i see the bathroom i mean it looks just

1658
00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:15,119
like the yin and yang symbol to me when

1659
00:55:17,670 --> 00:55:15,760
i see it

1660
00:55:19,510 --> 00:55:17,680
it's just a different symbology no

1661
00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:19,520
matter how you look at it

1662
00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:21,280
it's kind of looking at you like no i'm

1663
00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:23,280
not that i'm something else a lot like

1664
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:26,240
the strange demonic things that people

1665
00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:26,640
have

1666
00:55:31,589 --> 00:55:29,839
love how

1667
00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:31,599
you bring it all together in this book

1668
00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:33,680
series and that's impossible if not

1669
00:55:37,109 --> 00:55:35,119
difficult to do

1670
00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:37,119
and you you seem to have done it can you

1671
00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:40,160
go into letting our listeners know where

1672
00:55:44,630 --> 00:55:42,079
the best place to purchase the books are

1673
00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:44,640
and where they can hear you

1674
00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:46,400
absolutely i appreciate you giving me

1675
00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:48,000
the platform to do that

1676
00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:50,640
um so if you didn't catch it my name is

1677
00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:52,079
ryan gable

1678
00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:53,760
and my last name is spelled like the

1679
00:55:58,150 --> 00:55:56,640
actor clark gable it's g-a-b-l-e

1680
00:56:00,789 --> 00:55:58,160
so if you want to email me want to

1681
00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:00,799
contact me i try to be very personable

1682
00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:02,640
and talk to everybody if i have an

1683
00:56:07,589 --> 00:56:05,040
opportunity to do that if i have time

1684
00:56:08,230 --> 00:56:07,599
you can email me by searching your email

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typing in

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r romeo so r as in romeo

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d as in daniel r d and then my last name

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gable yahoo.com

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i have one social media page that i use

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for radio it's facebook.com

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forward slash the secret teachings

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which is the name of my show the secret

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teachings

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um that'll also be linked to my my

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facebook account

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00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:36,000
which is ryan gable and then

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if you'd like to find our website

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and listen to the show my website is www

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so it's dot info i try to keep the

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website very simple

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00:56:55,349 --> 00:56:53,680
and even kind of antiquated so it's very

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00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:55,359
very easy to navigate

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00:56:59,510 --> 00:56:57,520
if you go to the website you'll find our

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00:57:01,349 --> 00:56:59,520
entire show archive

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00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:01,359
in that show archive you'll find each

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year broken down into a specific tab

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00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:07,280
some of the old stuff which is kind of

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00:57:10,710 --> 00:57:09,680
embarrassing so old and it's not that

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00:57:13,109 --> 00:57:10,720
great

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is free to listen to there's also a

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number of other

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00:57:17,910 --> 00:57:16,079
free archives of little collections of

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00:57:19,510 --> 00:57:17,920
shows i've made from the past that you

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00:57:21,190 --> 00:57:19,520
can listen to some of them are newer

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00:57:23,829 --> 00:57:21,200
some of them are older

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00:57:24,470 --> 00:57:23,839
our main archive is subscription based

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but i do

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give out a lot of free shows because the

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00:57:31,829 --> 00:57:28,640
co if the content is very vitally

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00:57:33,430 --> 00:57:31,839
vital and critically important um and on

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00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:33,440
the website you'll find links to the

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00:57:37,349 --> 00:57:35,599
three books each book has their own page

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00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:37,359
it's very easy to find at the secret

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00:57:41,349 --> 00:57:38,960
teachings dot info

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00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:41,359
you'll see the description of the book

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00:57:46,710 --> 00:57:42,960
you'll see pictures of it

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00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:46,720
and you'll see a section for reviews

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00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:48,960
from people like for example the

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00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:50,960
technological elixir

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00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:53,280
i've got reviews from kev baker from the

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00:57:58,069 --> 00:57:54,400
kev baker show

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00:57:58,950 --> 00:57:58,079
uh leo zagami uh people like clyde i

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00:58:01,990 --> 00:57:58,960
think clyde loves

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that book as well mark devlin uh and

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then

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people like jim mars reviewed my occult

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00:58:08,390 --> 00:58:05,839
arcana book

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um i've got a couple of uh doctors like

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dr

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and some others that reviewed food

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00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:15,599
philosophy so there's a lot of stuff

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00:58:20,230 --> 00:58:17,440
about the books on the website

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00:58:22,150 --> 00:58:20,240
the subscription uh to the archive gets

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00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:22,160
you access to the digital versions of

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00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:23,280
those books

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and then also i have a montage archive

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00:58:30,150 --> 00:58:27,920
with all the montages that i'll play

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00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:30,160
on the show as well so that's a triple w

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dot the secret teaching but info the

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00:58:36,630 --> 00:58:33,520
show is five nights a week

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on the fringe dot fm or

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00:58:43,829 --> 00:58:39,839
simply fringe f-r-i-n-g-e dot

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00:58:46,470 --> 00:58:43,839
fm it's it's all killer no filler it's

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that's the truth and you know it's like

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it's too bad we didn't get into

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some of the darker but you can't you and

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you attack it i

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i mean this this is kind of what we were

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discussing so many of us

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do not attack some of these things out

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of fear

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but all of the mask policies and

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symbolism there

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really goes into some deep stuff that we

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weren't even

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able to get into but that maybe that's a

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good thing

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positive reason because maybe we could

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do another show on it very very soon and

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talk about it there you go

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because it is and has been something

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used by secret societies for

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a very long time masks allow those who

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rather not be

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well identified to do things that they

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usually wouldn't do

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yes and you should also i i assume you

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know this but if your listeners don't

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in the 16th i think the 16th 17th

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century

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england um in other parts of europe

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they'd wear something called a shame

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mask and people that wore the mask were

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being shamed for doing things that were

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considered societally

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unacceptable so there's a relationship

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to that as well as there is to sadism

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and masochism which i call masqueism and

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what i call

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cultural bdsm and you know a lot of

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people have the article from

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stockholm syndrome and the mask plays

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into that as much i think as it plays

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into what you just said

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in relation to uh initiation rituals and

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secret societies and things like this

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so yes we can talk about another show if

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you'd like oh man

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i would so like to do that that would be

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so epic because

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yeah the fear-based just total

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just you know giving up it's just crazy

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we have to leave it for another show

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there's just not time this time but i

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can't thank you enough for coming on

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ryan

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and i i hope to talk to you again soon

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you got it well there he is really the

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01:00:41,750 --> 01:00:38,720
best mind at

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01:00:42,309 --> 01:00:41,760
you know delving deeply and darkly

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01:00:45,430 --> 01:00:42,319
without

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01:00:46,870 --> 01:00:45,440
any apologies into the light and dark

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01:00:48,870 --> 01:00:46,880
which you kind of have to do if you're

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going to understand

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01:00:52,390 --> 01:00:51,520
well some of the occult arcana involved

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01:00:54,309 --> 01:00:52,400
with so much

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01:00:55,510 --> 01:00:54,319
in americana and throughout the world

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symbolism

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01:00:58,950 --> 01:00:58,079
symbology is very important as anyone

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will tell you if

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it wasn't well we wouldn't have things

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like flags

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so until next time guys uh check out the

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secret teachings dot

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01:01:11,349 --> 01:01:10,319
info and support ryan by grabbing his

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01:01:12,870 --> 01:01:11,359
three books

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01:01:15,030 --> 01:01:12,880
they're definitely you'll get more than

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01:01:17,829 --> 01:01:15,040
your money on each and every one

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01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:17,839
and lastly not to just promote promote

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promote but um

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check out heroparenormal.com that's it

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until next time keep your eyes to the

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skies feet on the ground

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[Music]

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blast off